29999 impressions

Weeeeee!!!!

It would appear that you love your refresh button far too much.

30015 impressions

haha, yeah, those are from visitors.  I have GA running also, and it's pretty close I think, even for a day behind.

Site has been in beta since the 8th, just went kind of live today with an Apple iPad contest :-)

I expect to see 50,000 by the end of the week, and pick up some nice new members!

We at Unity have adopted a saying based on one of our many relatives: link, or get the hell off. Of course, I don't mean to jump-off the web site, but I'd still like to see a link to your web site to see what you are doing differently that could warrant so many impressions, if they are even by as many people as you claim. You must realize, impressions are hits to a web page, which can be by anyone, or anything. It doesn't mean thirty-thousand people are actually visiting your web site.

What are you using to measure impressions?

My guess is his Google AdSense dashboard, which doesn't care whether or not you are the one loading the web page. I believe this is the same person who posted about his web site becoming a large success with thousands of impressions based off the same method of impression-tracking.

Just typed out 3 paragraphs, and got the damn denied access error from Boonex.  When I feel like typing all that out again I will be back, give me a few minutes, I have a contest running...

The Dolphin banner counter.

That guess is wrong, I am going off the Dolphin banner counter in the admin.  I have asked here a few times what it considered an "impression", and never got a straight answer.  For that matter, I've never received an answer at all that I can remember.

The most I have ever seen here written on the topic is if you put your banner code in the footer (in my case it's the Google Analytics code), and the footer loads at the end of the page, whatever the count is is the result of a "page load".  Not a hit, click, or anything else.  If I am wrong, please point my to some documentation from Boonex that explains what an "impression" is, I would love to actually read something official.

On another note Magnasoft, I don't post my URL here because I have local competition, and I don't want a link to or from my site to here, for obvious reasons.  They already know what script I am using, and with the information to be found in the forums here, could easily hurt my site.  I am not willing to take that chance.  A few people here know what my domain is, I am willing to share, but normally only on an as needed basis.  I would be happy to PM it to you, again, as I have to others, for various issues in the past.  I only ask that if I do, you don't post the URL or the keywords in the URL.

I am not doing anything special with my site.  Default template with some tweaks, MySpace, Facebook, Twitter trolling, and I have local ads and a lot of word of mouth/buzz going on here right now about it.  I am not claiming to be a bad-ass, or a super marketer, or anything of the sort (actually, I am a super marketer, but in a different Industry).

So this isn't a thread about dick-size, it's a thread I started because i am having fun, and hopefully can inspire others to keep on it, and succeed as I am.

Dolphin's banner impressions work the same way as Google's AdSense, if I recall correctly. That said, there is still no evidence that your web site is actually receiving this much activity beyond your own doings.

I hate to break it to you, but unless you can provide the number of members on your web site, and the average number on (or the link to see for myself), this doesn't look very impressive beyond what other Dolphin web sites can report for page impressions. If you want to send me the URL, by all means, do. After all, I love being wrong on thing such as this.

 That can be a bot, a virus, a traffic purchase (gotta love those things, where you purchase a ton of hits that come from places you can't control and end up as garbage in the end).  Why not post a screenshot of your Google Analytics page showing us where the hits are coming from?  Perhaps the  pie graph would be a great place.  Ten to one this is coming from either a ridiculous number of page refreshes, a bot or some traffic site purchase where the results are complete garbage because they result in no sign ups. 

I'd love to see the bounce rate on this site.  90% roughly is my estimate.

I have about 70 members.  Not impressive in the least bit, nope, I agree.  But when I am not real worried about my member count, because my sales/marketing strategy only rely on that number a tiny, tiny amount, that number does mean much to me.  I have a completely different sales approach on my site, and in most cases, I don't try to get people to sign up, I don't want the traffic or member base yet, and there is a method to my madness.

I think outside the box a lot, and this site is so far out of the box not many people will get it the first time around.  I don't sell memberships, I don't sell ad-spots (at the moment), I don't have any banners on my site right now, and very few of the things that Dolphin can/will do have anything to do with where I'm going.  In fact, my source of income with this site is all in custom programming, and at some point I may offer those custom mods/systems to people here.  But in the meantime, let's do this, why don't you avoid telling me what and what is not "very impressive", and I will stay outside the box and make money my way, with my strategy.  Fair enough?

According to Google Analytics, my bounce rate is 32.96%, and that's up from last week, when it was at 28.00~%

Seriously, do you guys just sit around and doubt and hate?  Jesus, lesson learned, I will keep my little successes to myself I guess from now on.  Great talking to you all.

Usually when someone disagrees with you here, you accuse them of "whining" - not "hate", but I guess to each his own.  Seriously, "impressions" is a completely meaningless stat - especially if you are looking at your banner manager - which is designed to gen up impressions.   Your "unique visitors" per day is a much more meaningful statistic.  How many unique visitors come to your site each day?

It's not hating, it's actually trying to do some verification.  If you have something malicious generating the hits then you need to prevent them, if they are human and genuine hits, then good job. 

Your claiming a 32.96% bounce rate and have 70 members out of 30K hits means you are only converting 0.23333% of those who visit the site to actual more than one time users.  But let's look deeper, because this shows you don't have 30K hits.

Note a hit is a unique visitor coming to the site for the first time.  With a 32.96% bounce rate and 30K page views we know that 9,888 pages did not get a second view, rather those people came, saw it once and left.  That brings the 30K number down to 20,112 pageviews that were not bounces, since we know they weren't bounces (meaning looked at one page and went to a completely different site) we know that 20,112 can be no more than 10,056 unique visitors (including bots) who showed any interest beyond the first page.  You can't count the 9,888 who bounced as they did not like what they saw from the beginning.  If the average person viewed 3 pages then you had 3352 visitors, if they average person visited 10 pages you had 1005.6 visitors.  I hope your getting the picture here.

So, better questions:

What is the average number of pageviews per visitor?

What is the average amount of time spent on the site per visitor?

What is the average amount of time a particular page is viewed per visitor?

Keep in mind, if you have Google Analytics running you can get all this information from them and it will provide a much better tool for determining success of a site.  If you have 100 people bouncing all over your site from page to page they can easily eat up 100 pages per visitor which will give you your page impressions pretty fast, but it begins to show very little overall traffic as it's the same people over and over.  Anyone looking to invest marketing dollars in your site is going to want to see these numbers from an independent source such as GA, not from your sites admin panel. 

Meh, in the Industry I work full-time in, when people argue or dis-believe, we treat it totally different, usually as a matter of jealousy or dis-belief.  Either way, I learned my lesson here.  At the end of the day, most of these numbers don't really matter as much as the amount of income my site is producing, or has the potential to produce.

And again, I have asked here before about what Dolphin considers an "impression", and never got an answer.  I am also running Google Analytics, but I also know those numbers are not accurate either.

I run other sites that collectively get millions of pageviews, and hundreds of thousands of visits a month, and I know how to skew those number both ways, and read them even more than that.  The one I am looking at right now in fact is at 423, 081 Visits and 2,514,039 page views.  But I'm sure most here would doubt that too...lol

It's cool, like I said, I am not that worried about it, the thread wasn't meant to start an argument or a tussle about anything.  So much for just sharing and caring...

Now you're starting to get at what I am looking at, and for.  I am not doing anything like what most people are doing with a Dolphin install, when it comes to typical marketing, advertising, or a huge list of members...  I am working this whole thing totally different.  The rest is fluff and pointless in MY case.

You all have a good night, I am going back to work.

how about a link to that site ?..

Here's a question that is raised by your statement, what is the point of your Dolphin site if your not looking to have the people who visit the site join it?  It seems like a huge waste of a script to have a full D install sitting there to just get people in, click on something and go elsewhere without building any type of loyalty to the site.  The vast (and I do mean vast to the extreme point) survive off the idea of returning visitors, not on one time visitors.  If these people hit your site, look for a moment and don't join, then how are they to even know who you are?

This is the part that is intriguing as D is designed for return visitors and collection of data for marketing purposes.  Your more or less stating, it sounds like, you want to get them in, have them click/buy something and then go away.  Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Read the thread, not posting it here for obvious reasons.  Already covered that...

Not sure where that came from Cal, he's not being incredibly rude here or anything.  Actually, I think he's bein' pretty polite amidst the questions/skepticism of the majority here.  Perhaps a chord on the violin was struck that we all missed.

The point is (and I am not going to go in to a lot of detail here, yet) I am trying a new way of connecting people, and doing it in a way that's not been done before.  Will I eventually need a large member base to accomplish my eventual goal?  Yes.  But for right now, and for at least the next month or so, the total member count of my site isn't that important to me.  What IS important, is the total number of QUALIFIED members I have, that will get me and the site to where I need to go.

Let me give a quick example...

I have one site that does millions of page views a day, and several hundred thousand uniques.  To some people that would be amazing, un-heard of even.  In fact, at one point this site had so many hits to the mySql database, the MySql server just shut down.  At the time, mySql could handle a maximum of 50,000 queries a second, and we were beyond that.  Now, alone, those numbers sound super, but to us, it was a huge and expensive pain in the ass, and we lost money, about $5,000.00 an hour for every hour we couldn't serve pages.  The problem, un-qualified traffic.  It was all good, legit traffic, but not CONVERTING traffic for what we were selling at the time.

Now, another site, had less than 10% of that traffic, but was making a killing in sales.  Why?  Because they people hitting the second site were qualified.

That's where my approach is a lot different from most people's who are running a Dolphin site.  I don't need a large number of members.  I need members who are qualified, and able to participate in the program I am operating...  Further, I have advertisers who are willing to pay TOP dollar for access to that smaller pool of people.

Starting to make more sense now?

Okay, so to determine whether your having success or not we need to look at all the numbers, not just the impressions.  For this we will consider the impressions to be equal to pageviews.  We know the bounce rate, but we do not know the average number of pages viewed, the length of time on the site, average length time per page and so on.   Finally, we need to determine what your conversion rate is, which is new visitor to buyer (becoming member).  With all of this information we can begin to determine how successful or unsuccessful you are being right now.

Not tryin' to argue with you, just trying to demonstrate what it really takes to determine success of a site. 

Why don't you mind your own business.  If newbreed wishes to call me rude, that is his call.  You and I clearly have a different idea of what is rude, and I don't wish  to have a pissing contest with you here.

All this nonsense aside, I have the most important question of all to ask: how the hell can you have a contest for the giveaway of an Apple iPad when the device is nowhere even near a release date?

Sorry Cal, I used the potty a little while ago and I'm all outta pee, so I guess you win the pissin' contest.  Don't even see in this thread where he called you rude since you've only made 2 posts.  One of them to accuse him of being rude and the other to talk to me about my urinary habits.  I must say, you are truly an eloquent member today.

Did you perchance happen to drop your Binkie?  We can get ya a new one if ya need it.

It clearly states in a couple of places that when the device is released in late March, it'll be given to the winner.

Not that I feel like I have to divulge my whole plan here, but there's a lot more involved.  Like, there is a launch party scheduled for the end of that Month, at which time the winner(s) will be invited to claim the prize.

Ugh, I feel like I am teaching kindergarten here, having to explain every little thing in detail to you.  I started a thread that you're trying to turn in to a pissing match, for no reason I can think of.  If you have a point to prove, do it and move on.

This isn't my first rodeo, you aren't going to accept any number or any proof I offer of anything, so why are we continuing to waste or time here?  I've nothing against you, and this whole time, all I have said is that I have a different approach to sales and marketing than most people here, and I don't feel like lining it out in detail for other people to run with right now.

FFS, leave it alone please, it got old 2 hours ago, and I am leaving the office for the day.

You all have a great night.  Me, my site, my ideas, and my contest are going out for a beer.

Well, I fell it's time for the weekday-roundup! Let's begin, shall we?

This topic began with the author, newbreed, announcing that his web site had reached nearly thirty-thousand impressions. After his initial post, he posted an update, stating that he had now reach a little over three-thousand impressions, claiming these are all from visitors. He also at this point discloses that his web site has been in beta since early last month and had only now gone live, following the announcement of an Apple iPad giveaway.

The author was then challenged by several people regarding the legitimacy, and reliability of using impressions as a form of web site statistics. The author then confessed that he did not understand how impressions worked, and was then told by several members that impressions are generated by web site views, by anyone and for any number of times, including refreshing.

The author then began explaining why he could not provide his web site address, claiming that it was for competitive reasons. This has proven to make little to no sense, as he has also confessed that his competitors are already aware of the web site, and the underlying platform that it is powered by. Although stating that he will provide anyone who asks his web site address upon request, he has chosen not to fulfill this promise.

The author was then told by members that, unless he could provide better statistics, such as actual visit numbers and the amount of members registered on his web site, there is nothing to back-up his claims of such a high-rate of visitors. The author later admitted to having only seventy members in all, and then stating that his web site does not actually rely on the membership, but only visitors. He later provided his web site's bounce-rate as compiled by Google Analytics, which is currently thirty percent, ten percent higher than last week.

Members continued to request further statistical data to discover the actual amount of visitors to the web site, and the actual success of the web site "at the end of the day." This included average number of web site views per visitor, average amount of time spent on web pages by said visitor, and the average amount of time a visitor spends on the web site in all. The author did not reply with more detailed statistic information, instead talking about other web sites that he claims to have hundreds of thousands of views, respectively. No web address has been provided for any of these web sites.

And that's all! Have a nice week, folks!

My turn:

In the month of January,when my site went live, I have had 1,700,727 page views therefore I've had 1,700,727 visitors and I win!

Popycock! My web site has over three million impressions, and I haven't even gotten it off localhost!

haha... now to serious business (what this forum is made for).

I received a DOS attack yesterday from some upstart competitor.  Idiot used his home IP to do it and even signed up with his user name at his regular site.  After security scripted blocked him from trying to upload some video that would link to his site he started the DOS....you know what it did to my poor server?  It brought my CPU usage up to 5% during his hours of DOS!!!

Of course after blacklisting the IP in firewall I"m trying to decided on the best course of legal revenge: discuss?

I suppose you can always contact the authorities, or sue him for any financial damages caused by you having to lift a finger to blacklist his petty attempt to take down your infrastructure. Or, hire a hit on him. Yeah, hire a hit on him.

thanks for the link to the site newbreed,

It's fantastic! your right I can see your growth potential. Congrats.

 Ya gotta luv it when the forum idiot creates a 2nd account to make it look like his claim is real.  ROFLMAO!!  That ^ is way to funny!!

I want to contact the authorities for these people who create multiple accounts with their multiple personalities.  They really are a danger to themselves.

WTF are you talking about dude?  Seriously, you have way too much time on your hands, or not enough projects in the mix to produce anything worthwhile.  First you take the time to try to dis-credit me, poorly I might add, and now you're accusing me of creating multiple accounts somewhere?  hahahaha, this is getting funnier by the hour.

Seriously, who do you think you are?  You think you've "called me out" and won some illustrious prize and a following for asking questions that no sensible business owner/operator would divulge the answer to on a public forum?  Really, go find a job owning or running a real business, get some experience with operations management, asset management, contingency management, confidentiality, competitive leverage, and common sense.  Then come back and try to act like you have some kind of clue what other people are trying to accomplish, well, in my case, accomplishing.

Or are you talking about Newton?  If so, he sent me a message, and I sent him my URL.  He joined the site, and I let him in on a couple of things.  Wow dude, get help, seriously.  Back away from the keyboard for a couple days, sounds like you need it Chief.  In the meantime, I will go back to making money, and developing more leads, etc.  You're doing a great job at turning this place into a zoo, and I think I will leave you to doing what you obviously do best...  Good luck in your endeavors.

You managed to turn a simple thread into a pissing match full of bullshit, for now reason.  Good job.  If you're smart, you'll follow where I'm going, and possibly, if you can get past your ridiculous attempt to clown and discredit others, you may get somewhere eventually.  For now, I 'm done here, this is a complete waste of my time...