7.0.3 ????

Is there going to be a 7.0.3 this month?

It would be nice to be informed of such things. I've been waiting to do some improvements until this upgrade comes out since it was *said* that we would be getting them about once a month.

We are almost a week into July and all we've gotten so far is deafening silence.

If you are able to find out, please let the rest of us know as well.   Good luck.

I thought everyone realized by now that they never plan releases ahead of time: they let 'em loose whenever they feel like it. No? Just me, then?

be patient and wait on the lord

I'm not sure "The Lord" has anything to do with this. ; ) ha ha

Yeah, Boonex have not exactly grasped the concept of a regular release.

DATES - WE WANT DATES!!!

Pick a number between 1 - 28 and stick to it!!!!

/DM

There is an old Buddy Holley tune that started playing in my mind as I read this.

.....That'll be the day, woohoo - that'll be the day, woohoo.........

LOL

The Flying Spaghetti Monster will not save us.

Just do like I do.... refuse to upgrade on the grounds that it might kill me! (and my project)

 I think the Flying Spaghetti Monster is working for BP right now.

He cares about the small people.

LOL :P

This is the comedy topic

lol

It doesn't really matter since Trac became dysfunctional does it?  They still have that major problem with the database and predefined fields, and they just close or move tickets they don't want to acknowledge.

Flying Spaghetti Monster has been sighted! No sign of a text editor anywhere nearby, so I don't think he is working on Dolphin.

....still no sign of a response from Boonex either, unfortunately.

This isn't reassuring

I should add that I don't care about release dates. I get all of my updates directly from SVN, so I need not worry.

I'm getting ready to go that route myself.

I should know better than to believe anything that Boonex posts for public consumption. I sometimes think they do it just to get a laugh as people complain about their failure to do what they said they would.

That is the major point of this post.

Maybe they'll package 7.0.3 and 6.1.7 together. ha

No, I fully expect some "HUGE" announcement very soon about something totally unrelated. That, or a big announcement concerning "Trident" - along with all of the bogus promises & flat out lies that come with everything around here.

Distraction & misdirection must be official Boonex company policy. Look back over the years - it's consistent. Promise something & deliver news about something completely different so that people will forget what they were waiting for in the first place.

It's such a shame. It's like getting 100 feet from the peak of the mountain and then throwing yourself off a cliff - for no good reason at all.

How many more cliffs are there?"

LOL@theguypc - Funny Sh!t

This is unfortunately beyond the scope of many, and is something that I refuse to do out of principle. The update path is bad enough as it is, without having to jump through hoops.

Talking of which, I cannot believe that update 7.0.2 still had this issue with deleting htaccess files WTF is that about?? Did they leave it in on purpose so that it looked like a feature?

Updates should be like this...

1. Log in to admin panel
2. Upload gzip file via admin panel
3. Press the update button

And if Dolphin really is as far advanced as everyone claims it is it would go like this...

1. Log in to admin panel
2. Upload gzip file via admin panel
3. Press the update button
4. Accept / Reject automatic merging of diffs

In another snarky attempt to bump this thread I humbly submit this horrible graphic for your Unitized consumption

The Guypcwrote:  "No, I fully expect some "HUGE" announcement very soon about something totally unrelated. That, or a big announcement concerning "Trident" - along with all of the bogus promises & flat out lies that come with everything around here.  Distraction & misdirection must be official Boonex company policy. Look back over the years - it's consistent. Promise something & deliver news about something completely different so that people will forget what they were waiting for in the first place.t's such a shame. It's like getting 100 feet from the peak of the mountain and then throwing yourself off a cliff - for no good reason at all."

This is BY FAR the most insightful thing I have ever seen written about the management at Boonex- you TOTALLY nailed it.   Whenever you think that there might be a chance of victory, they will make some harebrained announcement that will set your progress back several months or more.  Does anyone remember early on when we were waiting for D7, and suddenly they announced an upgrade to D6.  Then the year of "just a few weeks" waiting for D7 was punctuated by all sorts of "announcements" that would delay things for more months.  More recently we are all praying that Boonex would fix some critical functionality in D7, and out of the blue comes that  "Webhome" thing, then before too long "Trident" rears its ugly head again.  I made a blog post once about how trying to work with Dolphin software is like being tortured - they deleted it naturally, but I feel that way now more than ever.

This post is TOO funny. Nice graphics theguypc...hahahahaha ...okay this laughing was supposed to be a emote..odd things are happening here folks. This site is doing some strange things.

Unfortunately, there is still no word on 7.0.3 so maybe they really did take a header off of a cliff.

In fact, I haven't noticed any Boonex staff posting lateley. Maybe I just missed them (??)

The one thing that *can* be counted on is .... not being able to count on anything Boonex says.

Actually, they have been around: you just miss them.

Too funny.  I still think you nailed it with your "announcement" observation.  I keep remembering more of them - always just at the point when we think there might be some progress.  Remember the "reverse blogging" one, ore whatever that was - no telling what those guys are working one, but we can be pretty sure it is not D7!

Nearly half way through the month and not a friggin' peep from Boonex about 7.0.3

Does Boonex understand how rude and inconciderate it is to make promises about upgrading every month and then ignore people afterwards? Is that "Unity" building?

This is BS

Seeing all the complaints about how Boonex is run so inefficiently, this question has come to mind: What would happen to Dolphin based websites if Boonex ever went out of business?

ANSWER: 

The same thing that appears to be happening now - stagnation.

On the other hand, we wouldn't get all of the false promises either - so maybe it would be a good thing.

For people with versions 5x and 6x, Boonex basically *did* go out of business. Now it's D7 and eventually Trident...if history continues to repeat itself.

Of course a more literal answer to your question would be that anyone running Dolphin based websites would either have to manually remove the advertisements from their sites or live with Boonex ads. This is because an *out of business* Boonex isn't going to run servers to do license checks.

This is never going to change. Boonex will never change. Dolphin will never be more than half finished.

BTW, while I may complain..... they are based more on the lies and the fact that Boonex keeps ignoring its own community than on lack of updates.

Also, I complain right here on the Boonex site - unlike some gutless people who post anonymous & idiotic rants on YouTube or elsewhere. I make my opinion known along with my identity. I suppose I could create pseudo profiles for complaining, but I'm not someone who does crap like that.

I'm pretty sure you understand what I mean about pseudo profiles godofwar.

Do you think Boonex is run efficiently, effectively, correctly, or anything other than haphazardly? If so, please let us all know where we are going wrong. I've been coming here for years and this wasn't supposed to be happening anymore - according to the owners own posts. But it is, and it always will be this way. Some companies don't understand the concept of doing what they say will do. It's just sooooo much easier to put everything off & ignore anyone who doesn't like it.

Boonex's biggest enemy is Boonex. Dolphin's biggest competition is it's own company's procrastination.

It's hard to move forward when you intentionally shoot yourself in the foot. Boonex is a great shot. Too good.

Trouble is.... by shooting themselves, they shoot us all in the feet.

@theguypc - I think you have me confused with someone else. This is the only account I have and I don't use pseudo profiles. I've been using Dolphin for 6 months and I pay for my license. It was an honest question. What happens if Boonex goes out of business? Seeing all the complaints in the forums, I would say this is not such a far fetched question. Do all Dolphin based websites crash since we won't have the Dolphin Admin? I would like to know the answer to that question so I know to put more money into my Dolphin website or not.

The licensing is only checked when initially enabled, this was recently changed when the site experienced the DOS attacks, the result being that many could not access their admin panels. The change means that this is now an non-issue.

However, support is still very much an issue - as theguypc very correctly points out - just go and ask anyone who's running a D6 site. The promised 6.1.7 update has never eventuated - and by the looks of TRAC - never will. D6 was something that Boonex promised to support, and then instantly dropped when D7 was released. It's just one more thing in the long list of failed promises that Boonex constantly makes.

I am more than a little disappointed that there is no sign of a release, especially in view of the promises made, and the success of the precious release. Seems to me like 2 steps forward 1 step back.

/DM

I apologize. I thought I detected a different tone to your question & thought your profile may have been created for that purpose.

I believe the admin accessibility was fixed in 7.0.2 (if I remember right) There is a workaround too - but I can't seem to find the link to it for some reason. (I am a bit over-tired)

There was one other call that was getting made by the flash apps. That was to be addressed in 7.0.3 - and I think the fix has been posted to Trac. I have been waiting for 7.0.3 instead of applying sporadic fixes. It's easier & much less messy. Of course there may never be a 7.0.3 (and Boonex is determined to keep it a closely held secret), so Trac may be the only way to get the fix.

There are also posts that explain how to manually remove the banner ads & callbacks which can be found elsewhere on the Internet. That is currently against the license of course, but would be an option if Boonex cannot keep up their end of the deal.

Bottom line is that you will be able to use your script, *if* (or more likely when),  Boonex goes belly up.

I hope I didn't offend you earlier. I make the wrong call sometimes. My bad.  ; )

I wasn't offended, no harm done. So the scripts can be used, we would just have no way of making changes since there would be no Dolphin Admin if Boonex went under, correct?

 You would be able to access the admin panel on your site - if that's what you mean.

Obviously, you wouldn't be able to access your admin area here on Boonex.com.

It is still an issue for those who have not upgraded or applied a patch or other required changes.

And AFAIK, BoonEx does not send out notifications to customers about security updates or important functionality updates.

Which means, a lot of people are unaware and sites are "un-patched" - either for something rather minor like this; admin panel access when the license server (or news feed or whatever) is down, or even for more serious issues like; disappearing avatars, and even possibly critical issues; like Visual Database Processing in some cases showing undesirable information on a database error.

Smoge

@GodofWar,

if boonex were to go out of business, which i truly dont foresee anytime in the near future, i would tend to believe there are enough community members to keep it going. there would be some modifications of the code as it is released now, but for the most part, Dolphin will always live on. There are still many 6.1.6 sites launching, many are unknown to this community, but they are launching, and doing well.

Dolphin is by far one of the most powerful social networking scripts available today, open-source or otherwise. If you were to have this application written, i would estimate something of this caliber would run in the neighborhood of 3+ million. yes that is correct, $3,000,000.00, take a gander and see what kind of quote you can get for cloning dolphin, you will be amazed.

Good luck Boonex Staff, and release the update when its ready to release.

Regards,

DosDawg

Assuming of course that they ever *will* release an update.

The lies, misdirection, inattention, and unfinished business is the point of this post. Or at least it began that way.

Looks like the stages of upgrading to me..lol

What members? I used to make a post here and within an hour, it was 3 or 4 pages deep. I now regularly log in to see my post is still on the first page a full day later.

I think it's mostly because you get tired of logging in every time you want to reply to a message, I know I do, and I'm guessing that many simply don't bother visiting at all, as half the time the site is (was) down.

Also because of stuff like the RMS thread - not exactly conducive of encouraging others to participate. Unity can be less than a friendly atmosphere some times - and like it or not there is a clique here, and noobs find this hard to deal with. Unity is unlike any other support forum in this respect, and it takes a lof of getting used to.

/DM

There is a lot of insight on this thread, especially from

@theguypc - it is almost like some of us are getting to know Boonex too well.  I also live in fear of the next "announcement" as I know it will usually be a setback of a few months at least.  "Distraction & misdirection must be official Boonex company policy".  It sure seems like that sometime.

I also agree that the product is destined to be half finished- Boonex has already gotten bored with it I think.  It is too bad, because it could have been a world class product.

What I think will happen is we will all have to start modding our sites until upgrades become very difficult, and maybe impossible.  Our sites can still be good, but this community will gradually become less relevant to us as what we will really have is custom built sites.   This happened to me with the directory I built with PhpLinkDirectory.  I got something good, but I modded it until upgrades became impossible, so I seldom go to their community anymore.

@Skyforum - this community is far more dead than it used to be- I noticed more because I stayed away for a few months.   It is really a shame, because Boonex had a great resource here that they seems to have squandered.   One thing I notices is in the testimonials for the mods- there are lots of people posting there that we never see here, so the product must have more sites than we think they do.

I am still stunned that after all this time D7 still has major flaws in the database - in some of the most critical areas including the join form and the search functions.  Because of this, I wrote a detailed blog post describing these issues, and expressing the opinion that D7 was really still a beta.  Boonex or one of the moderators deleted this post, but that is still my opinion.

p.s. Theguypc - maybe people are expressing their opinions outside of Boonex because they are censored here?  I'm just sayin...

What will (and has to some degree already) happen is if they drop/lessen support to the point where people cant fix the problems anymore, offshoot clones will start cropping up. Like it or not $ + no value = dead product = guarantees reverse (laughs) engineering = rerelease = $ grubbing throwbacks = vicious cycle.

Its the way of things. Business on average is not being done the way it used to be. Take the money and run, sucker them in. Thats one of the main reasons piracy exists. Believe it or not there are thriving software companies out there despite the lower percentage pirating figures related to their products- why? Its the actual support end of things. Hence the beautiful, logical, common sense approach to your customer support/customer relation model. Stick a bunch of throwbacks in that department and you are sunk, no matter how good your concept is.

I'm not about to argue over anything, but I fell out of my chair at D' saying someone would pay 3 mil for a product like Dolphin- 10 minutes later Im still laughing only at the fact that only a clueless investor would even think of paying something that ludicrous. SE, PHPPFOX, Dolphin, Elgg, etc, Its all code. A week tearing all of them apart can yield a fully functional engine. You could pay some of the kids out there nowadays a few pizzas and free WoW accounts for a year to net you a engine that looks exactly like say, Dolphin built with the PHPFOX or SE guts. I'm going to rub a few the wrong way with this one, but even the mods (not all but alot) for alot of these engines are a joke in the respect that some are trying to rape house mortgages or car payments off the sales. Its a guaranteed trip to the bit torrent bin since most groups out there buy one piece of software and redistribute it. Copy Protection, Encrypting, Phoning Home, its all a waste of resources and time. Even locking people out of "premium support" areas doesnt work, 1 paid account and a offline reader blows that out of the water. Its about the quality.

How the above applies to Boonex (and any other business) here should be (if they are still serious) is make a damn good, solid product. Back it up with proper support, and make sure it has value. Value to your customer, not your coke and blond bimbo habit.

I had been blessed growing up with and interacting with successful folk like the Fords, Lee Iacocca, Ted Nugent, Gene Simmons, etc. to name a few. As a fresh young turd in the corporate world I picked up on alot of working knowledge that is universal no matter the business you are in. Seems like when they started introducing candy ass drugs like ectasy and wine coolers, all business logic got pissed out the window.

Just jotting some observations. Back to my coffee

I'm not sure what the point of this post is, but then I'm not sure what the point of checking in to Unity for updates everyday is either.

If you look really hard, you won't see any Dolphin in this video either. ha ha

Enjoy!

Yeah, dead as can be.  I can't believe they trashed the blogs here- the one sign of life.  I guess after the year of waiting for D7, we now are supposed to wait a year for Trident, then the world will be saved.  http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/A_Technology_Breakout_Is_there_danger_on_the_horizon_

Problem is, this industry is not sitting still- some of the things I worried about last march are now happening:  If much more time passes, most of what we have done will be irrelevant.  It is too bad - a fantastic opportunity is being squandered.

LOL, love that video. THAT GUY must have gotten tired waiting for the update and decided to do something constructive instead.....

I wonder ... if we start deleting our posts, won't that push us back down the page? If we can make it go backwards, maybe we can fool people into thinking it's busy here?

LOL, just trying to be helpful......

I 100% agree with this and i suggest instead of respecting the people at Boonex who are providing a cheap solution with such wonderful benefits i dont know how people can talk like this and even earn money from this...

Can anybody tell me at Boonex why is it that  with the upgrades to the new versions like 7.1 , 7.2 , 7.3 in future why is it that always any mods or pluggins or changes we have done shold always be upgraded and reinstalled.

I am not able to understand one thing why is it not like the other big software gaints make this software also one basic structure and any mods or applications which are made based on that we do not have to upgrade also .

As this is very sad to know that we have to always change and upgrade even the mods and changes we have made.

I hope somebody will give me a little clarity on this either from Boonex or from the greats here in Unity.

A little clarity on your post would be good too. I can't, for life of me, figure out how you can blast others for complaining and then complain yourself.

I guess you just felt the need to suck the Boonex tit. Good on you. It doesn't change the fact that we are being ignored again though. Nor does it change the lies that keep occurring.

We love Dolphin and appreciate that Boonex provides it. It's the carnival sideshow that is so irritating and ridiculous.

Telling the truth is much easier than doing coding - but you wouldn't think so, having been around here for any real length of time.

I am one of the first to compliment Boonex when they do what they say they will. That is very rare, unfortunately.

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I have noticed that the "suck up to Boonex" thing seems to be dissipating.   A year ago, they could do no wrong, and if you said anything even mildly critical you would be slammed.   Does anyone remember one of their surprise announcements when they raised the license fees to $1000.  I got slammed for saying they had over shot - about 500 negative votes as I recall, and then a month later Boonex changed there fees to exactly what I said I thought would work - and gave some license out to contributing members- which was a good thing.

They are dropping the ball again now though- in a really serious and scary way.  I  calam still stunned that the database join form and search functions don't work after all this time- which is depressing because I am guessing now we will have to wait for "Trident" - or Poisedon or shark or whatever they call it.   I have said it before- this industry is moving to fast for the way they are working.  I think they should fix D7 and make it awesome, but now I doubt they will.

Thats why (for me it works) I'm not dropping a penny until I see results. There hasnt been a modfication or fix yet that cant be done if you put a little effort into it- this obviously wont help the people out there that try to run these engines that dont have any background or aces in the hole. Not everyone is interested in maintaining multiple test servers and working with all the different offerings out there either, but if youre serious, you will.

agree with you man

Dolphin 7 is a good script but they have many things likes bugs and other stuff is not there for a good social network

I have 2 site one live and the other is for testing Dolphin modules or anything have to be edit on any file I have this site before I do something wrong on my site and go down like before >> before i have more the 5,000 members on my site I pay for a module here on Boonex and the fucking Module destroy my site the developer add some stupid injection to destroy my website when  me pay for the module i have some problem with the module I talk to the developer to get it fix for me and he send me a file and when I upload that file to my site every time I refresh my site is missing something and im not going to pay if I don't see good reviews about the module maybe before I make some mistake because I don't know to much about Dolphin but now i been using Dolphin like fir 1 year and know no one can stop me but Boonex need to make Dolphin 7 much better stable , faster and more profesional for SEO

I am getting ready to hire a full time developer for my site. There is a good chance though by time I that happens I would have already moved on. After months of messing around with d7 I have half the features working and lost all my serp rankings..From number 1 to not in the top 50 pages....

Customers are fickle.

I know its not in everyone's ability to do so, but it doesnt hurt to run other software(s) under a test environment just to keep up with whats going on in the industry- by doing that in your "off time" you have the ability to change over to a different engine without much (if at all) downtime for your site.

There comes a time when it becomes put up, or shut up.

sometimes people/companies get more money by delaying things than to proceed in a speedy manner. Lets hope this is not the case. But I realized the business at other places right when dolphin 7 was announced and those started to implement many new features which they wouldn't have done otherwise.

I also remember that several months ago a developer from a big competitor was applying for a job here, coinsidence?

Yeah this would be a good idea, just not sure how much "off time" any of us have while tring to get there sites working.

Don't know if it's because of this thread or not but I have spotted a miniscule advancement for 7.0.3 in Trac....

Called this one - didn't I?

Tell everyone that Boonex will work "night and day" until the new update is done, promise all kinds of improvements, then send people on vacation 2 days later & edit the original post to remove what was said.

I was thinking they *were* on vaction already, but I digress - yet again.

I suppose they will probably keep one dev home from vacation to work on the update. Hence the "work night and day" statement. Lame.

agree

Trac shows the update being 7% more complete than it was 2 weeks ago.

At the current rate it will be 8 more weeks before the next update - if it comes at all. Of course vacation will set that back, as will any new "change the world" project diversions (such as @webhome), DDOS attacks, or whatever else can be dreamed up as a excuse for lack of expected - and promised - updates..

October, November, or December anyone?

@ theguypc, you hit it right on the nail. They have been away from the forums for almost a month now with a few exceptions to comment on a couple of forum posts. At this rate we will NOT get a update tell after September. I feel they have been working on a product that only paying users can have access to, and maybe because their mistakes have cost them a lot of money and they need to recoup. I don't see them receiving any more monies for license after they keep repeating history and giving us unfinished products. And I don't think D.7.0.3 is going to be any different from D.7.0.2....Bugs....Bugs....Bugs.. I personally am giving this software and site tell March of 2011 and if nothing has changed and the product is still unfinished, I think I will move on and go else wheres. I may not have all the bells and whistles that this software has but at least I will have a FULLY FUNCTIONABLE software to work with. This is getting ridiculous to say the least. Now they are going on vacation (so they say) and we will get to wait more and more. Don't get me wrong, everyone deserves a vacation, but they don't give us any update as they promised and then the only word we get is, we will be back later to continue working on D7. Are you serious Boonex? I have waited from 2006 tell now and all i seem to be doing is upgrading, fixing, and begging for help. I should have been able to spend that time on making my site better and bigger with readings and info for my members, instead all my time is spent on the software side of the site...ughhhhh

Wooo whooo

Finally we have someone talking

agree with you

im wasting my time two but for me is to late i don't have to much member on my site I been using Dolphin for a year and haft and the software still have a lot bugs on the script

This is the 5 time my site goes down becuase many bugs I can't get it fix or databased errors

I have over 50 topic with no reply or support  >> Boonex do you think that's make your spftware profesional without suppor and than you want people to pay for a license the only people here the give you support is the premuim memebr or regular member but I never got help from admins, developers

WTH --- you guys doing you want to make money

Well - I want to grow up my site and make money two like you guys and will not having problem buying a license or upgrade my account to premium

A few days back I want to the Expertzzz page to try to get my mods I bought there in 2008 and 2009.

If I think back and see the mods I bought, how much money I've put into my old D6 and at the end I could throw out all the mods so I could do the upgrade to D7 and now it seems that all the buying of mods starts all over again.

Or is there anyone who is telling me "hey you bought that mod before for your D6, come on I give it to you for your D7!"

From March on I lost my adult community cos I could not afford the hosting any more.

I'm slowly getting back on to my feet again and started a new project as well working on it to get my adult community back.

Should I rather buy a house?

It hurts, but then, I learned a lot and I had to pay my price I guess!

AND BOONEX PLEAAAASE LETS SEE THE MEMBERSHIP LEVEL OF A MEMBER ON HIS PROFILE PAGE. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH A SMALL ISSUE IS STILL NOT A NORMAL THING AT D7!

I think that Dolphin is a software for programmers, not website owners.It should NOT be compared to any other software...That's true...Other software dummies can install and keep up. Well I'm not a dummy and I'm not programmer either, but i do know my way around a lot of it just from trial and error. But hate the more errors then trials..lol So advertising that this software is easy to install is one thing, saying in the same breath that you need some type of programing background to hook mods up and keep it up when updating should also be posted. This would save webmasters like myself a lot of time and trouble and we can move on. I'ts NOT easy to use, only easy for some to install.

For Boonex - as they work "day and night" on Dolphin 7.0.3.......while simutaneously being on vacation & releasing paid mods.

Trac hasn't moved at all in 5 days. I think the devs must have had a bit too much to drink and re-forgotten about Dolphin

Well September is here, and again my predictions were right. NO release in August like we were promised. Now they are working on other things as well. This is getting ridiculous Boonex. You say one thing and then do another. No one can depend on anything that is stated about this product or it's release date as it never is TRUE. My mom always told me if you can not speak the truth, do not speak at all. I think a lot of people are getting like me and the wait for a decent software is just that a wait...wait...wait. They say they are celebrating their 10th birthday, yet how can you be so proud of a product that is NOT finished? I would be ashamed to admit it was my company's 10 year in business when all I have is a software junk yard that has no complete working parts.

They're celebrating their 10 year birthday with Dolphin 6.1, which is essentially a finished and stable product.

Now I bet you feel just silly.

Actually I do not feel silly.  "essentially a finished and stable product" is NOT a finished product.

You caught on.