Its a serious question! Can i? |
Yes, you can copyright your website contents. ---- |
You can change the copyright information in the footer by editing a language key. You can't edit files to remove the header information, in case that's what you meant. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
i didn't mean jst to change the copyright information on the footer.. i meant really copywriting it with a lawyer and all.......and y can't i remove the header information.. not that i will because i don't mine it being their..but am just curious.. |
any ways.. i have an unlimited license...never expires..so dont i really own the site? i mean like...its open source right? u can modify the script how ever u want it and even sell it.....?? right??? |
The short answer to your question is yes, yes you can copyright your website.. here's the US governments page on copyrighting "online works":
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ66.pdf
About removing the headers, the simple answer is because Boonex said so, lol. It's in the license agreement. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
okay okay....!! lol..... so alright! soooo what if i remove the boonx header? what will happen? just getting my facts right...not that i will again.... because only i have access to my ftp and no one else can read the source code of the files. |
okay okay....!! lol..... so alright! soooo what if i remove the boonx header? what will happen? just getting my facts right...not that i will again.... because only i have access to my ftp and no one else can read the source code of the files. You will be violating the license agreement, and thus will have no right to use the script. The license requires attribution in the form specified by the author (BoonEx). This includes the file headers and advertisements. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
ahh..okay!...thanks :) the header information looks pretty there by the wayy... :D |
Boonex will shut your site down , put a lien on your webhost and come to your house and confiscate all your electronics (including old VCRs)... I kid, I kid..seriously that's one question I don't know the answer to, I think someone from Boonex would have to chime in on that one. It has been argued many times on this forum whether the Dolphin license is really open source or not, but it would take someone much wiser than myself to figure that one out.
EDIT: You guys respond too fast! lol BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
Boonex will shut your site down , put a lien on your webhost and come to your house and confiscate all your electronics (including old VCRs)... I kid, I kid..seriously that's one question I don't know the answer to, I think someone from Boonex would have to chime in on that one. It has been argued many times on this forum whether the Dolphin license is really open source or not, but it would take someone much wiser than myself to figure that one out. SuperModerators may do this. We have the authority.
I've taken part in a few topics about Dolphin's open source status. It mostly comes down to Dolphin being licensed under a Creative Commons license, which isn't recognized as an open source license. You can download and make any needed changes to the source code (except to the file headers and the code that handles the licenses), which is what matters most. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
The very essence of "Open Source" in my honest opinion is if you can fork... it it's open source, so I don't consider dolphin open source, and CC (dolphin's license) isn't OSI approved as "Open Source". Dolphin is far from open source in terms of the community, the badgeware requirement , and not to mention the encrypted license system. I am not sure how they are even hosted on sourceforge, because unless they changed something , this is for open source software....
-barry |
You guys respond too fast!
Correction: Boonex or Supermoderators will have to chime in on this... and since Nathon can respond before my page even reloads it'll probably be him, lol. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
The very essence of "Open Source" in my honest opinion is if you can fork it it's open source, so I don't consider dolphin open source, and CC (dolphin's license) isn't OSI approved as "Open Source". Dolphin is far from open source in terms of the community, the badgeware requirement , and not to mention the encrypted license system. I am not sure how they are even hosted on sourceforge, because unless they changed something , this is for open source software....
-barry You can "remix" Dolphin, per the terms of the license. I don't agree with their usage of open source, but it doesn't seem to be an issue for anyone.
You're correct that Creative Commons is not recommended for software. It may even be that "remixing" the script isn't possible, but this is all something for a lawyer to chime-in on. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
i mean, like..its open source..and it did say we can modifty it any way we want..and we did buy the license for it...so...... we own it.. i guess.. i don't know.... any ways.....say...am going to copyright my website....can i put..that am the author of the site..that includes or means "the site is my work" and am copywriting it??? |
i mean, like..its open source..and it did say we can modifty it any way we want..and we did buy the license for it...so...... we own it.. i guess.. i don't know.... any ways.....say...am going to copyright my website....can i put..that am the author of the site..that includes or means "the site is my work" and am copywriting it??? The word to focus on is license. You have a license, which allows you to remove the advertisements, and that's it.
You should be able to add your copyright information. You can copyright the content, just not the script itself, is basically the point of all this. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
I would disagree most people don't care, they are just not here to care.... Dolphin is the slowest progressing CMS I have ever seen , and the ghostliest of "communities". I see zero outside contributions or code fixes (other than in the forum and those don't seem to get put upstream even). I really would hope that dolphin would not be anyone's first experience with "open source", because while boonex likes the buzz word , it's far from it.
-barry |
I know i can't copywrite the script because if i did then all of you would be violating it..cause every one has the same script..lmfao.. either way i won't be able to do that since am not hte author of the script.
In conlusion, since the script is hosted on my server. Technically am the owner of the "Website", so to conclude i can copywrite "the website"..right?? |
I would disagree most people don't care, they are just not here to care.... Dolphin is the slowest progressing CMS I have ever seen , and the ghostliest of "communities". I see zero outside contributions or code fixes (other than in the forum and those don't seem to get put upstream even). I really would hope that dolphin would not be anyone's first experience with "open source", because while boonex likes the buzz word , it's far from it.
-barry I guess most people who would care don't use this script (not justifying their usage of the word, but the only person who has voiced their concern over this has been you). I'm an Etomite user. Dolphin is far fom being the slowest-progressing script around, but it's not one of the fastest, either. If you have some code to share, contact an administrator/open a ticket with a patch. I've seen third-party code added before, and could have sworn someone other than a paid developer has committed to the repository at one point.
This is all something you should be talking to Andrew about. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
You can copyright the graphics (assuming you did them) and the content. I don't think CSS or design of the site is copyrightable, and no you don't own the code, just allowed to use it under the guidelines of the license.
-barry |
I know i can't copywrite the script because if i did then all of you would be violating it..cause every one has the same script..lmfao.. either way i won't be able to do that since am not hte author of the script.
In conlusion, since the script is hosted on my server. Technically am the owner of the "Website", so to conclude i can copywrite "the website"..right?? Go ahead.
Edit: I didn't mean to copyright the script itself. I meant the site. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
I just thank goodness that mysql , php , imagemagick, perl, timymce , apache , memcached, mod_rewrite, mod_ssl, all the linux developers , and the countless other dependencies that make dolphin even possible don't require attribution..... I mean we can keep going to C and IBM , blah , blah , blah.... That would be one hell of a footer..... And yes I don't like false claims like dolphin is open source. I realized after I paid that it was not. I am sure most people don't understand the difference , but that doesn't excuse the facts. The funny thing is how much dolphin depends on open source but no where on their site (that I know of) gives thanks or donations to the giants on whos shoulders they stand....
-barry |
I just thank goodness that mysql , php , imagemagick, perl, timymce , apache , memcached, mod_rewrite, mod_ssl, all the linux developers , and the countless other dependencies that make dolphin even possible don't require attribution..... I mean we can keep going to C and IBM , blah , blah , blah.... That would be one hell of a footer..... And yes I don't like false claims like dolphin is open source. I realized after I paid that it was not. I am sure most people don't understand the difference , but that doesn't excuse the facts. The funny thing is how much dolphin depends on open source but no where on their site (that I know of) gives thanks or donations to the giants on whos shoulders they stand....
-barry I think you're starting to be unreasonable. But again, this isn't the place. You should be contacting an administrator about this (not the attribution to Linux, etc. part, that's the unreasonable bit). BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
Maybe the problem is the administrators don't read the forums.... I have voiced this on Andrews notes as well. Your post was unclear as to the part I am being unreasonable? I think it's unreasonable for people who represent Boonex to call dolphin open source.
-barry
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And come on you can't be saying that it's unreasonable for boonex to at the very least honorable mention the open source warez they profit from.... especially given their requirement for attribution. Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in this? I doubt it...
-barry |
Maybe the problem is the administrators don't read the forums.... I have voiced this on Andrews notes as well. Your post was unclear as to the part I am being unreasonable? I think it's unreasonable for people who represent Boonex to call dolphin open source.
-barry
I was saying that to require that people give attribution to the software on the server is unreasonable. It's accepted that this script requires a server that runs a web server with PHP. I thank the doctor for performing the surgery. I don't thank the manufacturer of the scalpel he or she used. I can argue that because of the scalpel, the doctor was able to perform the surgery, and thus deserves some credit, but it doesn't really make sense for me to do that. I can probably add a quick note about it when giving my Nobel Prize acceptance speech.
And come on you can't be saying that it's unreasonable for boonex to at the very least honorable mention the open source warez they profit from.... I like that you called open source software illegally distributed. I know you meant software, but warez has its own definition.
I'm only going to say that you should send Andrew a message about this. I'm off to feed my cats. BoonEx Certified Host: Zarconia.net - Fully Supported Shared and Dedicated for Dolphin |
Yes , if only the software world worked like the real world. The doctor owns the scapulae and it didn't come with a license agreement. The physical world is nothing like the virtual world of intellectual property so your analogy is tenuous at best.
-barry |
Warez is slang for a lot of different things , I obviously know the difference. Funny how you don't address the issue though. I particular like the new videos demostrating the image manuplication in dolphin 8 that is 98% imagemagick and 2% boonex script..... Huge hypocrisy.
-barry |
no dog in this fight and dont want one. if it is a problem for you the way the software is licensed, then use something else. socialengine, or ning, or one of those. but you have used up an enormous amount of time here debating something that only truly an attorney with internet law skills would know half the answers to.
i state half the answers intentionally, as internet, and the concept of virtual real estate is not something we have precedence on in the law libraries. top of the day to you. Warez is slang for a lot of different things , I obviously know the difference. Funny how you don't address the issue though. I particular like the new videos demostrating the image manuplication in dolphin 8 that is 98% imagemagick and 2% boonex script..... Huge hypocrisy.
-barry
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No it's really simple DosDawg.. Dolphin is not open source .. period... I only continue to point this out when someone from boonex says that it is. My main point that I have stated before , I wish boonex would open source dolphin to expose it to a greater number of people and help build a better community that actually fixes problems instead of 3 people ... It's my opinion and I am exercising the privilege I paid for, and yes I know I don't have to use dolphin and prob won't unless major changes take place , but also you don't have to read my posts if you think they don't apply to you. I mean it could be worse and I could be posting about all the bugs and problems , but there are enough of those unanswered posts to go around...
-barry |
do you know the difference between "open source", "cc" and "gpl"? what "open source" means to you?
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arn't we paying a lot of money to delete the Advertisement and Attributes of our dolphin script? i mean we got the unlimited licenses to delete any evidence that this is a dolphin script! yet we paid and we can't delete the "header in each php file"... i mean since we bought the license isn't the copy of dolphin script ours and we can do any shit we want with it? |