Dolphin 6.1.1 is a pile of junk

I have never seen anything like that, seems like nobody tested the damn,

i must say i was considering of buying this one after installing the 6.0, now that i've seen 6.1 i'm abanding this whole boonex all together,

 

Quote · 22 May 2008

I feel your pain- but I'm wondering if we can move these "Dolphin sucks" posts, that have no other useful information, to the "General Dolphin" forum, and keep this one for those of us who are still trying to make 6.1 work.

Thanks

Rob

Quote · 22 May 2008

CAL TRADE, I agree, all this negativity is is gonna make me puke.

Happy thoughts people... happy thoughts!

Danny

Quote · 22 May 2008

Plz. post your problems. I will give a solution.

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Quote · 22 May 2008

You know... I was thinking the same thing. Why would somebody who thinks is so bad, not be spediic with regard to what he didn't like, or had a problem with.

Often I think, when I see posts like that... they're just paid forum and blog terrorists from competing solutions, trying to spread bad karma.

But I could be wrong Wink

Danny

Quote · 22 May 2008

Hi again,

well no I'm not trying to terrorize this forum, but when you have too many bugs to list it gets really frustrating so i post my frustration :)

Quote · 22 May 2008

This isn't a frustration forum, it's a support forum... if you want to be negative, go start your own forum for that purpose.

Quote · 23 May 2008

I tried the upgrade pack from 6.0 to 6.1, spent more than 10 hours (I'm a novice OK) and at the end of it ended up with server errors aplenty. Finally I abandoned the upgrade procedure and did a clean new install with 6.1 and have got my site up.

Everything seems ok now except a problem with licenses. For Ray free the license generation page at Unity says "Movie Player" so I assume the equivalent term on my site is "Video Player". The system accepts the license ok, but when I try to play a video on my site it keeps on saying "this widget not registered".

Is there a solution for this problem? See my website at http://ecovoiceonline.org

Quote · 23 May 2008

Sometimes this may happen due to your browser. Clear the cache of your browser and open the site.

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Quote · 23 May 2008

Nope, it still does not work. I think there is some other problem , and I really hope anyone who has managed to work around this can post their experience here.

Quote · 26 May 2008

I really like this script eveything works fine on my site except one thing forums module wont load on homepage. is this an issue with lots of people www.keysfleamarket.com/community/

Quote · 22 Jun 2008

Hi I visited your site with Firefox 3, and I think there is some more not correct, above your header I seeing some code...
also if you open your forum there is code ....

Tip:
go to admin - plugins - orca and click on the little [en] to transform your english laguage file. This will remove the brackes around the titels in your forum.

Kids first
Quote · 22 Jun 2008

I feel your pain- but I'm wondering if we can move these "Dolphin sucks" posts, that have no other useful information, to the "General Dolphin" forum, and keep this one for those of us who are still trying to make 6.1 work.

Thanks

Rob

excellent idea cal.

i have myself been guilty of screaming dolphin sux. but the i took a breath and a step back and said let me analyze this for just a minute. maybe its not the software thats sucking, ITS ME. i downlaoded the files, done some more reading, went in with a clear head, and guess what, i have installed dolphin now 68 times, and getting paid to make it work. my installs come with support up to the point that everything on the site is functional. once we have ascertained that everything is running, then i back off and let the owner have it. free, or adfree, both have been the same challenge. but i found out it was me. i was accustomed to geocities page builders, and angelfire page builders, and whatever other builder i could find that would do the work for me. (not really, just spewing).

i have determined just as many of the others who have hung in here to try to get this script to work, that this is difficult for programmers, much less joe the user. that is one reason i hang around in here, is to help those who need help. sometimes i can help, other times, i am unable to. i wouldnt know my track record of wins vs losses on here.

i have installed on three different operating systems, centOS, ubuntu, and fedora. i have seen rants about this and that not working, and humorously, if you follow the post, it ends up being user error. but good post man, hang in there, i am going to be on this site until it shuts down or they ban me.

later,
DosDawg

When a GIG is not enough --> Terabyte Dolphin Technical Support - Server Management and Support
Quote · 23 Jun 2008

I have never seen anything like that, seems like nobody tested the damn,

i must say i was considering of buying this one after installing the 6.0, now that i've seen 6.1 i'm abanding this whole boonex all together,

specifically, what are you having problems with. there are a few of us in here, that have most likely faced your problem, or have seen it posted on this forum or elsewhere. if you have a legitimate beef with the script, start a blog, use the forums to ask for support. the blogs are meant to carry your rants, the forums are here for those of us who can, will offer help. sorry you have this twisted outlook on dolphin. it is really a fine script. buggy but powerful. kinda like a new girlfriend, buggy but beautiful. that might be me in trouble.

post what the issues are, or move on.

answer these questions:

1. where are you hosting dolphin

2. what is your domain

3. have you read the wiki files

4. what is your experience level

5. what version are you running

let us know how we can help you.

later,
DosDawg

When a GIG is not enough --> Terabyte Dolphin Technical Support - Server Management and Support
Quote · 23 Jun 2008

just read his post a little closer. he has not even installed Dolphin 6.1.1 go figure that one out. how he can bash the script and he hasnt even attempted to load it up.

wowsa, real winner here.

later,
DosDawg

When a GIG is not enough --> Terabyte Dolphin Technical Support - Server Management and Support
Quote · 23 Jun 2008

This is script is too easy for programmers, nothing biggy in this script :) u just need the original  php manual on php.net to write this kind of script.

Quote · 23 Jun 2008

DosDawg,

It's not you, the script does suck! It has issues like the 32K user limit everyone keeps sweeping under the rug and ignoring. Or the fact that this script is flat out not cross browser compatible and dolphin has no plans to make it so. You can step back and take a breather all you want but unless you completely recode huge swaths of the script you won't be fixing those 2 issues any time soon. So let's not put all the blame on the users k? Wink

But at the same time it's the best we have to work with out there. So I too am starting to realize that complaining about it isn't helping and like CALTRADE I just want the darn thing to work AND not have major coding f#*k ups like the ones I mentioned above. To get there we're going to have to work together as a team and share code. I also agree that we should move the threads created just to say dolphin sucks out of here so we can focus on the task at hand.

But I also believe that all the people making the "dolphin DOES NOT suck" posts aren't helping either. Especially given all the evidence we see posted on the forum every day.

Quote · 23 Jun 2008

DosDawg,

It's not you, the script does suck! It has issues like the 32K user limit everyone keeps sweeping under the rug and ignoring. Or the fact that this script is flat out not cross browser compatible and dolphin has no plans to make it so. You can step back and take a breather all you want but unless you completely recode huge swaths of the script you won't be fixing those 2 issues any time soon. So let's not put all the blame on the users k? Wink

But at the same time it's the best we have to work with out there. So I too am starting to realize that complaining about it isn't helping and like CALTRADE I just want the darn thing to work AND not have major coding f#*k ups like the ones I mentioned above. To get there we're going to have to work together as a team and share code. I also agree that we should move the threads created just to say dolphin sucks out of here so we can focus on the task at hand.

But I also believe that all the people making the "dolphin DOES NOT suck" posts aren't helping either. Especially given all the evidence we see posted on the forum every day.

SuperNoob,

re:"It has issues like the 32K user limit everyone keeps sweeping under the rug..."

Strange, I was just working on a site with over 65,000 members. Is that new? Where did you get that information?

re:"Or the fact that this script is flat out not cross browser compatible and dolphin has no plans to make it so."

I guess if you're using the older browsers this is true. But as I understand it, you've mentioned you're a programmer to sammie and, well, why don't you fix it?


re:"You can step back and take a breather all you want but unless you completely recode huge swaths of the script"

Not sure what you mean about recoding. If you understand frameworks, Dolphin is a framework of functions with script. No need to do huge "swaths" of programming unless you want something custom. You can even generate and API set if you really wanted to.

re:"It's not you, the script does suck!" and "...But at the same time it's the best we have to work with out there..."

Wow this is kinda cool. Even when it sucks, it's still the best! The reality SuperNoob is you keep coming back because there is (at this time) nothing out there like Dolphin. It is not perfect, but even with its imperfection it still captures people's attention.

re:"...So I too am starting to realize that complaining about it isn't helping..."

You are correct. It also doesn't help when you alienate the Boonex programmers and pundits. I am making reference to this thread you started.

Calling them out the way you did will not inspire them or anyone to really want to help you out. So my advice to you is to tone it down a bit ;)

Additionally, I understand your frustration. You are preaching to the choir. It's one of the reasons I started my Dolphin tutorial site last year.

Anyway, I've done some pretty cool things with Dolphin and I'm very happy with it. It is not perfect but it was a lot more than what I had. I started programming my own social networking Web app but when I found Dolphin it was exactly the framework I needed. I've since abandoned building my own and decided to extend the existing app. At this point I know it well enough to make just about any layout or mod.

I think as a fellow programmer you would appreciate the Dolphin framework and be able to work with its quirks and adjust it to your needs.

Updating my BoonexNerd.net site.
Quote · 23 Jun 2008

re:"It has issues like the 32K user limit everyone keeps sweeping under the rug..."

Strange, I was just working on a site with over 65,000 members. Is that new? Where did you get that information?



SuperNOOB says: I was referring to this http://www.boonex.com/unity/forums/?action=goto&topic_id=Dolphin-can-only-support-32K-memebrs-max-

A non-answer from dolphin lead me to believe that this was indeed true.


re:"Or the fact that this script is flat out not cross browser compatible and dolphin has no plans to make it so."

I guess if you're using the older browsers this is true. But as I understand it, you've mentioned you're a programmer to sammie and, well, why don't you fix it?


SuperNOOB Says:
2 reasons:

1) Because I am not at all a designer and this appears to be a CSS/HTML issue.

2) Because my code monkey days though not too far behind me are behind me and as I move into more of a business role in my online ventures I tend to outsource tasks such as mods and code fixes. In other words anything that require more than a few minutes of my time.... That being said, as this becomes a more serious venture for me I'm going to have to decide soon whether to truly role up my sleeves and chomp into this code or just hire a go between and let them deal with all of this.


re:"You can step back and take a breather all you want but unless you completely recode huge swaths of the script"

Not sure what you mean about recoding. If you understand frameworks, Dolphin is a framework of functions with script. No need to do huge "swaths" of programming unless you want something custom. You can even generate and API set if you really wanted to.



SuperNOOB Says:
Show me one (just one) successful Dolphin site that uses the Dolphin script out of the box.....

That's what I mean by huge swaths of code. Your comment about generating an entire API only serves to prove my point further... thanks.

Browser compatibility to me as a businessman is important. Then there is the 32k photo files limit. Those 2 things alone are what I was referring to at the moment. I'm also talking basic privacy stuff here as well.... Private profiles, comments only by friends etc. (Unless you want a SPAM heaven) Some might consider those frivolous custom bells and whistles and hey they may be right... that is until your users start demanding it. We could have a huge discussion over whether coders should code for old browsers or not and that's good for the egghead in me. But the businessman in me knows there is no argument there.... Until the number of users using old browsers becomes miniscual it is beyond me how you can code a professional product that ignores them.



re:"It's not you, the script does suck!" and "...But at the same time it's the best we have to work with out there..."

Wow this is kinda cool.Even when it sucks, it's still the best! The reality SuperNoob is you keep coming back because there is (at this time) nothing out there like Dolphin. It is not perfect, but even with its imperfection it still captures people's attention.

SuperNOOB says: Well, all you really did is reiterate what I said. So we agree. Feature for feature there is nothing out there that compares to Dolphin. So all of you waiting to jump in and go "ooh ooh... so why are you still here!!" - That's why.

Look we're getting into semantics here because frankly the term "sucks" is incredibly subjective.



re:"...So I too am starting to realize that complaining about it isn't helping..."

You are correct. It also doesn't help when you alienate the Boonex programmers and pundits. I am making reference to this thread you started.

Calling them out the way you did will not inspire them or anyone to really want to help you out. So my advice to you is to tone it down a bit ;)

SuperNOOB says: Well you are correct too :). Toning it down a bit is good advice..... here. However comma.... I can name dozens of professional community software packages out there where publicly pointing out inadequacies in the product is met with a fix to the problem. No matter how much attitude the person posting the problem uses. I mean get real.... are we now publicly declaring that Boonex support is conditional on whether or not you "ask nicely"? What is this amateur night?



Additionally, I understand your frustration. You are preaching to the choir. It's one of the reasons I started my Dolphin tutorial site last year
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SuperNOOB says: Thank God for people like you. But wow, you think the complaining is bad now, imagine how bad it would get if people like you didn't step up and help. Do you think Dolphin would even care?


Anyway, I've done some pretty cool things with Dolphin and I'm very happy with it. It is not perfect but it was a lot more than what I had. I started programming my own social networking Web app but when I found Dolphin it was exactly the framework I needed. I've since abandoned building my own and decided to extend the existing app. At this point I know it well enough to make just about any layout or mod.



SuperNOOB says: You know it's funny, I was looking at what I have so far and thinking it's highly unlikely I'll ever upgrade. 1st because Boonex doesn't exactly have a stellar history with their upgrades and patches (just look at all the upgrade problem threads). And second I can use this as my base as I continue to build off of it and fix it as I go. Upgrading would just jeapordize all of that hard work or money spent on it.


I think as a fellow programmer you would appreciate the Dolphin framework and be able to work with its quirks and adjust it to your needs.



SuperNOOB says:
Heh heh, what code are you looking at? Because the code I see has design elements mixed in in random places within the function code. So though I can't fully agree with you I can agree that Dolphin is a great place to start if you were going to code your own.

Quote · 23 Jun 2008

You guys can go on and on defending and condeming the script but at the end of the day nobody wins cause the best script is the script written specifically to cater for your site.From my experience , i have never seen big blown sites using ready made scripts and being what they are.

Quote · 24 Jun 2008

SuperNoob,

Thanks for the reply.

You played well and I understand your viewpoint.

Bugs are the bane of any program and it is obvious it is stifling Dolphin's advancement. It gave me more incentive to speed up my next initiative and when it's ready I will share it with the community.

...sip...

Updating my BoonexNerd.net site.
Quote · 24 Jun 2008

I purchased Dolphin and installed it a week before the patch 6.1.2 came out. Every Ray widget worked fine with no problems. Now after the install of the Ad-Free patch 6.1.2, none of the ray widgets work.

I am getting the error, "this widget is not registered". What is the solution to this problem?

Any help would be great!

Quote · 24 Jun 2008

the video player doesnt post to myspace... why?... has anyone worked a solution to this?

Quote · 11 Aug 2008
 
 
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